No Smoking in Downtown Raleigh?

I still have not been able to come up with a concrete opinion on the subject. I do not smoke and with my friends, some do and others do not. My tolerance to it is much higher then most people so I generally do not mind being in a restaurant or a bar that allows smoking inside. I do prefer a non-smoking place over the other but only in a few instances has that been a determining factor in my activities. Everyone has a different opinion here and comes from different lifestyles so I believe no one is truly right. Here is some coverage of the proposed smoking ban in the state for those not following it.

N&O: Smoking ban passes second reading

WRAL: N.C. House passes public smoking ban

– ABC11: Price of cigarettes goes up

Rather then discuss the new ban on smoking in bars and restaurants, because that won’t get us anywhere, let’s focus on downtown Raleigh and how the ban may affect the area. If all bars went non-smoking, it is tough to tell how people would change, if at all, their regular drinking and eating spots. My group of friends have a pretty set pattern of bars we go to and I think that pattern will remain no matter what. Others may go to a bar more often if it was forced to be smoke free, changing their usual lineup of watering holes. It varies on people and groups of friends. With that said, the largest impact of the no smoking ban would be on tourists to downtown Raleigh. (and props to Chris for giving me this blog post idea)

While the local population will quickly adjust and think nothing of it in no time, visitors have the highest potential of recognizing this change and thinking positively of downtown Raleigh. I have nothing against people smoking but if you look at the following two scenarios, most of us will agree on the general result. I’ll focus on bars since this is the most likely place to find smoking going on; restaurants usually do a good job of offering seperate sections.

Situation: A group of 100 people visit downtown on a weekend and are staying in downtown hotels, 50 are smokers and 50 are non-smokers.

I Current scenario: Decision is up to the business owner.

Right now, downtown Raleigh has more bars that allow smoking then prohibit it. Our 100 visitors decide to venture out and see what downtown has to offer. In my opinion, I think that smokers will be mildly inconvenienced. The very few places that do not allow it do have access to the outdoors, whether it is their own patio or outside the front door on the sidewalk. For the non-smokers, it will all depend on how well they tolerate it (and I know some places are worse then others) but most bars in downtown Raleigh will inconvenience this visiting crowd. If they have to step outside for fresh air, that means they have to leave the place they chose to visit, possibly upsetting that visitor. Also, people usually seek out non-smoking places and since downtown Raleigh offers only a handful of options, it may not look good to most of the non-smoking crowd.

Conclusion:

Smokers – mostly happy, above average impression of DT Raleigh.

Non-smokers – average, DT Raleigh is ok.

II Possible future: Zero smoking allowed in all bars.

Now that all bars are smoke free, we can talk about how the same 100 visitors may act. With no option at all, smokers have to make use of outdoor areas, which is shared by everyone, and for the most part, less bothersome then lighting up indoors. Since this is the same way everywhere, I think that those who choose to smoke will accept it. The non-smoking crowd has one less thing to worry about and smoke will never negatively impact their opinion of downtown Raleigh.

Conclusion:

Smokers – Mostly happy, above average impression of DT Raleigh.

Non-smokers – mostly happy, above average impression of DT Raleigh.

There is no science to this little scenario I just blabbed on about but please comment if you feel differently. I am not saying smoking is the only factor that affects downtown’s impression but if it was a non-issue, then that would be the way to go. Anyway, the simple point I’m trying to make is that if there was consistency across the board, everyone would adjust fine rather then cope with an inconvenience and possibly carry a negative opinion about our area. Here is a Wikipedia entry with a map showing states and their current smoking bans. There are lots of states with some level of restriction of smoking in restaurants and bars. The non-smoking crowd is much more likely to think negatively of downtown bars if they come from a state that bans it. I do not know the answer to this but would a smoker from these same states like downtown Raleigh more if he or she found out they could smoke indoors? These days, I’d bet the answer is no in most cases.

Downtown Arena Comes Back

The announcement of this should be soon but a draft plan and design for a new downtown arena is being made. Rumor has it that certain empty downtown parcels have been bought up and will be used for its construction. There still is no word on who is backing this project but sources have told me some interesting details.

Three lots are being saved for this enormous project: the old site of The Hillsborough on Hillsborough St., one of the empty lots on the Edison site, and the empty land next to the convention center, where the city planned to build an amphitheater. Refer to the map for a visual. Sources described the new arena as a ‘radically designed sky high’ sporting venue. The venue was designed with the area’s focus on technology in mind so the lead architect wanted to display that in this ‘futuristic sporting orb’.

The three land parcels will contain the bases for the legs of the arena, almost like a giant tripod. The venue, seating a capacity of 45,000 people, will be inside a sphere-like building that sits 2,000 feet above the intersection of Salisbury and Martin St. The large seating capacity was specifically chosen to accommodate the area’s growing population and will be usable for hundreds of years. Parking issues have also been taken into consideration. As one source said, “Everyone seems to be against parking lots on the ground, so we are taking it to the air. When flying cars are the norm, so will floating parking decks. There’s just more room in the air then on the ground.”

I’m absolutely stunned at this information and look forward to seeing the official renderings. We should see the Canes play in the new arena when construction ends, which is planned to be around 2030-2032.

“The North Carolina Business Court’s Raleigh division will move to the Campbell University law school…”

“The North Carolina Business Court’s Raleigh division will move to the Campbell University law school when the university relocates to downtown Raleigh this fall.”

N.C. Business Court in Raleigh will move to Campbell’s new law school – Triangle Business Journal:

Small Glenwood South Update

I took a walk down Glenwood South last night and kept my eyes open for new stuff. The signs in the pictures above were at the building on Glenwood and Tucker. Some other points:

  • The corner space of 222 Glenwood is still empty. This can also be made into two spaces but right now the dividing wall has not been built.
  • Renovation work is being done on the building between Armadillo Grill and Solas.
  • Two parking spots were taken away from the area in front of The Hibernian for the R-Line. I recently heard of a complaint at this stop where the bus drove by and did not stop for a waiting pedestrian. Perhaps this will help with that and traffic flow.

“More than 60 percent of 1,006 registered voters in Durham, Orange and Wake counties said they…”

“More than 60 percent of 1,006 registered voters in Durham, Orange and Wake counties said they support light rail, buses or a combination of the two, along with dedicated lanes for circulators in downtown areas.”

Poll: More than half of voters support mass transit :: WRAL.com