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Demolition of the Greyhound Bus Station on Jones Street

The former Greyhound Bus Station on Jones Street has now been demolished. With the site cleared, construction of the Greyhound Apartments should begin. Personally, I hope they change the name but that’s just me.

Imaps shows the property having a built date of 1971 so the Greyhound Station made it 45 years if that is what the data is referring to. The small warehouse next door, at the corner of Jones and Harrington, probably was around longer. Not demolished was the Levin-Tarlton House which rolled through downtown this February to its new home on New Bern Avenue.

The new apartment building should go from Jones to Lane Street. I expect a similar configuration as The Lincoln because the footprints are about the same and so is the developer.

Last thought, looking at a map of the nearby area I can’t help but wonder if Lane could be extended to West Street? (or even Glenwood) A traditional street with sidewalks and travel lanes may not work but perhaps something nontraditional that is only for bicycles and pedestrians. Lane doesn’t end at the state government complex like other nearby streets but rather goes way east.

Riding a bike or walking, in some way, to Glenwood Avenue would be fantastic down Lane.

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  1. Publix is going to make a lot of money when their store opens on West in a few years. Other grocers are going to be kicking themselves for sitting on their hands the last few years while the writing was clearly on the wall. There’s just too much opportunity in Glenwood South with all the existing and upcoming residents in the immediate walkable area. Hopefully other retailers will follow suit.

  2. Love the idea of the non-motorized street corridor to extend Lane… I agree that it would be nice to have more connections to get down to Glenwood and right now, those links are a bit limited.

  3. I’ve thought for years that there needed to be better pedestrian connectivity between Glenwood and the West St. Area.

  4. When Jones becomes two-way that will help with the “going to” Glenwood. Right now from downtown proper only Peace and Hillsborough make it all the way to Glenwood by car. Tucker, Johnson, North, Lane and Jones all fail to connect from downtown TO Glenwood. I am pretty sure Lane was disconnected when the railroad was laid down in the 1850’s. It is clearly shown as not connected to West on the 1871 Drie map. Another thought of mine is even though the Greyhound apartments don’t have retail, the Quorum Center has three retail ‘punch outs’ (facing Harrington). Perhaps we’re almost at the critical mass needed to support, well, punching those out…

  5. Nah. The HT is not that far away. I don’t understand why the hipsters are too lazy to go the distance to CV or the Food Lions but go all the way to Slim’s ?

  6. @ Mark – those ‘punch outs’ are actually vitrines. The Quorum Center will never have retail space.

    @ Arthur – it has nothing to do with laziness. It’s all about walkability and convenience. And, the HT is certainly not walkable from Glenwood, much less from points elsewhere in downtown. At the end of the day, the Publix venture will be profitable and more importantly, it will catalyze the retail movement in the area.

  7. @Arthur – As a resident of Glenwood South, I concur with David that it’s about the walkability. I’ll add that the HT is often completely overwhelmed and most district residents of DT will be able to access the Publix by foot or by RLine. There’s an existing RLine stop literally across the street from their location. We will still hit HT for post midnight shopping since Publix isn’t 24×7.
    @David – When I’m adventurous and in search of a light shopping experience in combination with some exercise, I do walk to CV to both HT and Fresh Market and take my goods home with my by backpack.

  8. David, obviously those are vitrines *now. Here is reference #1 to retail space at the Quorum. http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2004/10/25/daily4.html
    Also this pasted article indicates the City required the Harrington frontage being configured for future retail. Though I can’t find the specific article where the Reynolds elaborated further, I am 100% confident this was the intent for those spaces. https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/topic/15631-quorum-center/
    Also, RE: HT, parking is so bad there I don’t even try for the main lot anymore. This side of downtown is way overdue for another grocery store. When I lived walking distance, I did in fact walk there. Calling “hipsters” lazy is really inane.
    Also, Leo, do you remember a previous project that was dubbed the Metropolitan? It was supposed to go on south Harrington St where the electrical substation is now. http://www.raleighmsa.com/images/projects/DowntownRaleigh/Metropolitan/TheMetropolitan-RaleighNC-2.jpg

  9. @Mark – I remember that cancelled Metropolitan project. I remember that there were some horrible floor plans to it that didn’t make a lot of sense. I was thinking about buying one until I saw bad they were. That project had a sales center on the north side of Peace in an old house near Glenwood.

  10. There has been a update of info. on The N&O Site ! It will be 3 bldgs. one bldg. will be more than 20 stories but less than 25 stories , one bldg. will be a hotel , plus a 3rd bldg. No info. on how tall the other 2 bldgs. will be !

  11. Oh, that’s sad it was demolished. I’m always a fan of incorporating the history of the building into it’s re-design… it brings so much more character to the space than just plain vanilla stick built apartments, which is what this project sounds like it’s going to be.

  12. Regarding whether Lane Street could be extended to West Street, it would be great, but I don’t see this happening. GoTriangle, previously Triangle Transit, owns the lot where Lane Street dead ends into Harrington Street, in addition to the building on the corner. This area was once talked about as the site of a future light rail station so they will likely want to hold onto it.

  13. @DLA, That would be a GREAT spot for a light rail station. I wouldn’t mind waiting if that’s the eventual outcome.

    @Tiffany, I generally agree, but are you really a fan of the Greyhound station? To me it wasn’t anything interesting to look at and from what I understand there were a lot of structural (or something) problems with the building itself that would have made it hard to do something like Citrix.

  14. @ Mark – thanks for the references.

    On the UrbanPlanet forum, I was struck by the reference to Handel Architects. WOW! Talk about enriching an urban experience and spurring economic development. You really begin to understand why The Quorum Center is in another league. Would be terrific to get Handel back to DTR for another project. Perhaps someone can comment on whether this may be in the works.

  15. David, IIRC, The Reynolds were being coy about a new project they are planning. They are *not involved with the Metropolitan/Greyhound site now, and of course Lundy owns their old site at 301 Hillsborough….so perhaps we’ll get a nice surprise with a another Handel/Reynolds project sprung on us in a previously undisclosed spot (or maybe Dwight’s coyness is that project….)

  16. @ Mark , I am not sure who the developer is that is doing the 404 Hillsborough St. Project.The last info. that I have heard is that it will be 20 stories .

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