Municipography, 300 Block of Hillsborough Street

Municipography is a summary of current issues going through the Raleigh City Council and other municipal departments in the city. The point is to try to deliver any video, photos, and text associated with the discussions happening at City Hall or elsewhere. Since this is a downtown Raleigh blog, the focus is on the center of the city.

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If you want to become an expert on everything related to the 300 block of Hillsborough Street then this Raleigh City Council video is the one to watch. I actually enjoyed the discussion and if there is any amount of municipal geek in you, then this video is the one to watch to the end.

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The video of the council discussion has the following:

  • Councilor thoughts on the properties
  • Proponents from nearby land owners and the Downtown Raleigh Alliance
  • Opponents from the nearby Dawson Condominiums

The short summary I can give is that the council wanted as many facts as possible before “letting go” of this city-owned land. Some felt that discussion should continue, at another time, to see how the land could be leveraged for community benefits, affordable housing being the most talked about. At the same time, with no plan or policy in place today, some felt that this particular piece of land should not be cherry picked into forcing those covenants onto it.

It’s definitely a tough decision and while the rezoning for the 20-story maximum limit was passed there’s still a conversation to be had about how to “dispose” of the property. That will be handled in the Budget and Economic Development Committee.

The old zoning had no height limit and any new proposal had to be reviewed for approval. What the 20-story height limit now does is that any building proposed that is under that limit immediately is approved. It’s like setting the boundaries for development ahead of time and if new proposals fall within that boundary, faster approvals take place.

The opinions were all over the place. Residents in The Dawson wanted something that matches their building, something with a 7-story maximum. A representative from the Downtown Raleigh Alliance sees the density as supporting more retail, more restaurants, and brings us that much closer to actually getting a grocery store in downtown Raleigh, something that at this point is the holy grail in some people’s eyes. The owner of the building, more like a historic house, at the corner of Hillsborough and Harrington, where the law firm is located, even said he saw the rezoning as a “down-zoning” as it was made clear that the previous approval here was a 32-story building. That was approved back in 2006.

In my opinion, I agree that affordable housing is very important. So let’s talk about it. Where is the “Downtown Affordable Housing Action Plan” or something similar? Who, or what group, can spearhead that effort? We should get that initiative rolling so that when future opportunities on city-owned land come up, just like the one here at 301 Hillsborough, council will know what to do and have the confidence of modifying plans so that they benefit the community in a positive way. What shouldn’t happen is rush to form a plan at the last minute just because we see an opportunity.

Since that plan is not in place, let’s not slow things down and I’m happy to see the council approve this rezoning.

As a side note, it’s unfortunate that councilor Eugene Weeks, representing District C where the most affordable housing in the city is located, didn’t say a word during the 1 hour and 15 minutes that this discussion took place. Sure, 301 Hillsborough is in District D but I almost look to him for guidance seeing as he should have the most experience with tons of city-owned properties turned affordable housing taking place in east and southeast Raleigh.

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  1. @ Leo

    Thank you! As I enjoyed the entire video! My thanks for bringing this to my attention as I might never have seen it, much less have a better understanding of the dynamics of our city council. My hat is off to you!!! Please keep up the great job! Also, I am with you, enjoyed every minute…:-)

  2. “What are your thoughts of EIFS and stepbacks” lol I agree this was a good watch. The gentleman from the law firm had some interesting observations. Strange how there is so much push-back from the Dawson community. I’d love to look out my window and see a nice, nouveau highrise every day.

  3. The scary part is that even a crappy looking 19-story building could cruise through the approval process, just for being short enough, but an elegant tower above 30 floors will require butt-kissing and patience on the part of the developer. Wait and see how this down-zoning will attract crappy developments left and right.

  4. @Ernest – that is my fear, as well. The city is only ENCOURAGING developers to propose short, unimaginative buildings.

  5. Seems like that’s always been their m.o. The figure heads that run Raleigh seem to live by the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mantra. I was born here 40 yrs ago and my parents were born here too, hell even one of my grandparents was born here. I know Raleigh as well as anyone could ever know Raleigh. Inside the beltline has always been a safe haven for the all the old money families that grew up in Raleigh. The last thing they want to see is a bunch of outsiders overcrowding their beloved neighborhoods and shops. You can whine all you want, but nothing will ever change.

  6. The 20-story by right will make it easier for a building 20 stories or less to go through the development process with the city. The design concerns are valid but are not much different from a 20+ story building. A 20+ story building is not inherently better. Design standards could get at some of the issues brought up about materials, but a major concern for the city could be pushing away developers, especially those of hotels who love the EIFS. We should advocate for design standards that are best for Raleigh but we must also balance that against economic impact of development.

  7. I’m seriously asking the following question. Couldn’t the city create an ordinance against the use of EIFS on commercial buildings within the downtown boundary? If their intention is to seriously smooth the process for delivering projects in the city center, wouldn’t it be better to just “put it out there” so as to set the expectation, not waste time of the developers and designers packaging proposals for review? Of course, banning EIFS will not rid the city of that look since stucco would still be an option. Frankly, many people cannot tell the difference between the two.

  8. Thanks John! I would love to see a aerial view of Raleigh if or when these hopefully future projects are done. Charter North, 301/307 Hillsborough, The Edison Office Tower, Hotels @ Davie St., 603 S. Wilmington St.S. Salisbury St.,Mr. Kane’s 2 Towers in the warehouse district! I think that all of these projects are a strong possibility!

  9. Stew, quite interesting. Aspen Heights has two developments going on in Austin now, a 22 story apartment building and a 50 story mixed-use building, to be the second tallest in the city.

  10. This is good news, anyway we look at it. Even if the Texas developer doesn’t shoot for the sky, the city will make more money from the sale and possibly decide to start thinking big in the future. After all, there are a few more city-owned parcels where bigger developments could end up.

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