Comments on: The State of City Market http://dtraleigh.com/2008/09/the-state-of-city-market/ A Downtown Raleigh Blog Fri, 18 May 2012 19:54:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Glenwood Agency » September 30, 2008 http://dtraleigh.com/2008/09/the-state-of-city-market/#comment-1106 Glenwood Agency » September 30, 2008 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:18:23 +0000 http://dtraleigh.com/?p=384#comment-1106 [...] Thoughts on City Market [...] [...] Thoughts on City Market [...]

]]> By: Bobby McDonald http://dtraleigh.com/2008/09/the-state-of-city-market/#comment-1065 Bobby McDonald Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:01:29 +0000 http://dtraleigh.com/?p=384#comment-1065 Looking at the overhead view of City Market I think the parking lot is essential. It fills up quick on the weekends and is mostly full on Wednesdays and Thursdays. I personally do not have a problem parking a bit farther away and walking. Listening to other people complain about parking in the downtown area however, leads me to believe that they should keep the lot. Looking at the overhead view of City Market I think the parking lot is essential. It fills up quick on the weekends and is mostly full on Wednesdays and Thursdays. I personally do not have a problem parking a bit farther away and walking. Listening to other people complain about parking in the downtown area however, leads me to believe that they should keep the lot.

]]> By: Ernest http://dtraleigh.com/2008/09/the-state-of-city-market/#comment-1062 Ernest Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:31 +0000 http://dtraleigh.com/?p=384#comment-1062 NC Scoop, that plan for City Market is way too old. It has been around for years and quite frankly I do not see it happening. This may actually be a good thing because I would hate to see prime real estate wasted on 2-4 story buildings. I would love to see a revised plan, showing a denser environment, with participation of developers and/or experts who actually understand the obstacles of developing urban communities in areas like City Market. Because of the latter's transitional nature, the plan needs to take many variables in consideration... NIMBYs included in the list of obstacles. NC Scoop, that plan for City Market is way too old. It has been around for years and quite frankly I do not see it happening. This may actually be a good thing because I would hate to see prime real estate wasted on 2-4 story buildings. I would love to see a revised plan, showing a denser environment, with participation of developers and/or experts who actually understand the obstacles of developing urban communities in areas like City Market. Because of the latter’s transitional nature, the plan needs to take many variables in consideration… NIMBYs included in the list of obstacles.

]]> By: NC Scoop http://dtraleigh.com/2008/09/the-state-of-city-market/#comment-1057 NC Scoop Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:32:09 +0000 http://dtraleigh.com/?p=384#comment-1057 In regards to that parking lot that is on the same block as City Market, the city has a potential plan for residential space there. <a href="http://www.raleighnc.gov/publications/Planning/Plans_in_Process/Moore_Square_Block_A_Map.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here's the link to the City of Raleigh's Moore Square District Redevelopment Map</a> As you can see, the south section of the parking lot has a proposal for a two-story mixed-use residential and retail building. The central part of the parking lot seems to have a possible chance of residential being put in with still maintaining some of the parking lot's existence, but nothing has been proposed yet. I think it'd be smart if they just completely got rid of that lot entirely and either put in a good residential community with ground-level retail (like Palladium Plaza), or expand City Market. Sadly though, its hard to replicate that historic feel the place has, even if its on the same block. And in regards to them converting this into Cobblestone Hall: an event center... I'm not particularly joyous over it. The moment I saw this building years ago, my mind could only think "Dean and Deluca". Although downtown isn't quite at the point to have a super high-end grocery story, I've always felt that that space would've been perfect for a medium-sized Dean and Deluca. We'll hope for a near future for that! ^_^ In regards to that parking lot that is on the same block as City Market, the city has a potential plan for residential space there.

Here’s the link to the City of Raleigh’s Moore Square District Redevelopment Map

As you can see, the south section of the parking lot has a proposal for a two-story mixed-use residential and retail building. The central part of the parking lot seems to have a possible chance of residential being put in with still maintaining some of the parking lot’s existence, but nothing has been proposed yet.

I think it’d be smart if they just completely got rid of that lot entirely and either put in a good residential community with ground-level retail (like Palladium Plaza), or expand City Market. Sadly though, its hard to replicate that historic feel the place has, even if its on the same block.

And in regards to them converting this into Cobblestone Hall: an event center… I’m not particularly joyous over it.

The moment I saw this building years ago, my mind could only think “Dean and Deluca”. Although downtown isn’t quite at the point to have a super high-end grocery story, I’ve always felt that that space would’ve been perfect for a medium-sized Dean and Deluca.

We’ll hope for a near future for that! ^_^

]]> By: RaleighRob http://dtraleigh.com/2008/09/the-state-of-city-market/#comment-1055 RaleighRob Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:05:35 +0000 http://dtraleigh.com/?p=384#comment-1055 Great article. To your ending question...I am not sure yet. I guess it remains to be seen if the new decks nearby and other new development bring in the pedestrians to City Market. That said, there appears to be a small parking area at the Wolfe & Blount intersection...perhaps getting rid of that and having retail/food kiosks, park benches and picnic tables would be a good idea there. Give it a small-park setting. Just a thought. I've always thought that since Glenwood South & Warehouse District seem to attract mostly food & entertainment that City Market could do well focusing more on arts & shopping. They already seem to be the best place for that downtown (though Seaboard is notable for some retail, too). The problem is that while the restaurants and bars there stay open later (except unfortunately for Big Eds), the shops & galleries do not, except for First Friday. If they did it at least every Friday and/or Saturday night, I think it could be a very good thing. They have the layout to make pedestrian-oriented "window shopping" work...but not the hours for it. And yeah, a few more interesting retail slots could help. Great article.
To your ending question…I am not sure yet. I guess it remains to be seen if the new decks nearby and other new development bring in the pedestrians to City Market. That said, there appears to be a small parking area at the Wolfe & Blount intersection…perhaps getting rid of that and having retail/food kiosks, park benches and picnic tables would be a good idea there. Give it a small-park setting. Just a thought.

I’ve always thought that since Glenwood South & Warehouse District seem to attract mostly food & entertainment that City Market could do well focusing more on arts & shopping. They already seem to be the best place for that downtown (though Seaboard is notable for some retail, too). The problem is that while the restaurants and bars there stay open later (except unfortunately for Big Eds), the shops & galleries do not, except for First Friday. If they did it at least every Friday and/or Saturday night, I think it could be a very good thing. They have the layout to make pedestrian-oriented “window shopping” work…but not the hours for it. And yeah, a few more interesting retail slots could help.

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